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  • #50485
    Marc H
    Participant

    I have 27 fields, about 8 of which often have a lot of text.

    Indeed, the .csv documents contain errors indicated to me by the site https://csvlint.io/ (file size 200 MB maximum). The format, although in UTF-8, is indicated in ASCII-8 according to this site.
    I installed a demo of Bento on an old Mac, I managed to obtain around 2500 entries by importing a Taps Form 5 document. Quotation marks pose the most problems, because they close a field.

    Next, I’m going to extract 5-10% of the data (that I need) from Bento to Taps Form.
    I will provide feedback.

    Modern CSV software should also help me (or use Excel or Libre Office) for extraction and purging of problems?! Thanks you.

    • This reply was modified 2 months, 1 week ago by Marc H.
    #50472
    Jeff Timp
    Participant

    Hello, 

    We just purchased TapForms (version 5.3.37) for both Mac and iOS after learning about its ability to import our old bento database and on the ability to see our database on both our iOS and MacBook Pro, but we are running into issues here that have us very concerned. After successfully importing our bento database and setting up the MacBook & iPhone to sync (nearby sync), my brother was editing the layout on the MacBook (OS 14.2.1) and when opened the app on my phone, and the changes he made were reverted back! e.g. he changed some fields to be web sites instead of text, but an important (and scary one) was he removed an entry on the laptop that was blank probably 5min before I opened the app on my phone, but as soon as I opened my phone app and checked the sync status (which turned green) the deleted entry was put BACK into the document on the laptop!! 

    Our plan is to use this software to keep track of our inventory (about 4,000 items with tiny jpeg images – database size is roughly 250 MB), and this has us very worried that changes we make to inventory numbers, locations, etc could revert or change to previous states without us knowing! 

    Any advice on how to make this work? Is there a way to make the MacBook be the “master” file so any changes it makes are priority? Or even better, is there a way to make the laptop the only one that can make changes? I don’t understand why the file changed back to a previous state once the iOS version was opened and would appreciate any help you can provide. 

     

    Thanks so much,

    Jeff

    #49945
    Watersilk
    Participant

    Hello everyone,

    Does anyone know of a Music Library Template for Tapp Forms?

    I have a music collection I would like to arrange in a logical format, listing Title, Group- Artist/Composer, Tracks, Musicians, Year, Format.. etc

    I wish I had made one in Bento, then transferred it to Tapp Forms, like I did with my wine cellar.

    Cheer’s!

    Kyle Jeremy
    Participant

    Hi! We’ve been very happy users for nearly 10 years, having found Tap Forms after Bento was discontinued.

    We have a quirky issue that just started happening that we can’t figure out how to resolve. We’ve got a hard-wired Mac Mini, a MacBook Air, and an iPhone all running Tap Forms for an internal item-logging database that consists of a little under 3000 items syncing over iCloud (we previously used CouchDB, but found iCloud to work better in our environment.)

    It turns out, somebody missed the prompt on the MacBook Air laptop asking to “reenter your iCloud password to accept new terms and conditions” so various work they were doing wasn’t syncing, which totally makes sense, as iCloud wasn’t updating.

    The iPhone and Mac Mini copies of the database were synced and working normally.

    What’s odd is that upon re-entering the iCloud password on the MacBook Air and confirming syncing was working again, we noticed a deviation in record count between the MacBook Air (2848 records) and the Mac Mini + iPhone (each having 2894 records).

    We went record by record, eventually finding somewhere around record 100 a handful of “missing” records on the MacBook Air, though interestingly they were very old (Date Last Modified typically around April 2013). It’s quite possible that this deviation had always been present and we only just noticed it now?

    If we modify one of these very old “missing” records in any fashion from the Mac Mini or iPhone, it immediately syncs correctly to the MacBook Air. Any changes made by the MacBook Air are immediately synced to the Mac Mini + iPhone.

    Since we were confident our “golden copy” of the database existed on the Mac Mini and iPhone, we decided to completely delete the Tap Forms app and ~Library/Containers/com.tapzapp.tapforms-mac/ folder on the MacBook Air, hoping it would prompt a full re-sync from iCloud.

    This appeared to happen normally, but the MacBook Air is still “short” and only showing the same 2848 records, not the 2894 we’d expect. While I presume we could fix this by doing an inconsequential edit to all 2894 records from the Mac Mini, we actually like having the “Date Modified” intact and would hate to lose it by having it updated to <present>.

    Any ideas what might be cause our MacBook Air to continually fail to acquire/sync the ~50 or so records that appear to otherwise be intact in the database, but getting “ignored” by the MacBook Air?

    #49686
    Amy Debreceni
    Participant

    I’m new to TapForms and keep getting screwed by it. It imported my Bento info into a sample form that I can’t figure out how to rename and save. When I restarted my computer, my “sample” form was gone and replaced with a Finnish one. I thought this would operate similarly to Bento, but that doesn’t seem to be the case. Any help anyone can give would be very much appreciated.

     

    Zippidty Doodah
    Participant

    Hey Brandon,

    Just clarification for my brain.

    1. First, disable iCloud sync on ALL devices? (Mac, iPad 1, iPad 2)
    2. Second, click on the Delete from iCloud button on ALL devices? (Mac, iPad 1, iPad 2)
    3. Then switch to Nearby Sync? On ALL devices? (Mac, iPad 1, iPad 2)
    4. Now, add the iPads to the Mac (from the iPad sync setting window)
    5. Conversely, add the Mac to both iPads (via the Mac’s sync settings)

    4 and 5 ensure 2-way sync.

    At that point I should see the changes I mentioned above that are only on iPad 1 sync back to the Mac (?)

    Side note: When looking for an alternative to Bento, I purchased FileMaker Pro. In all it’s glory, FMP was just too much. Finding TapForms saved me many hours of database creation. Because it just works. And as you have refined TapForms, I have been able to refine my databases. I’m still learning that TapForms contains many more refinements than I am currently using (scripts, etc) I so appreciate your continued support of a much needed app for the Mac and the ability to use iPads on location.

    TIA for the additional clarification.

    #47228
    ct4
    Participant

    Does anyone have a template that would make a list of bill to pay and be able to attach them etc. Had a good one in Bento but lost it a long time ago
    Thanks

    #45270

    In reply to: Backup

    Brendan
    Keymaster

    In the online user manual that shows you how to migrate from Bento to Tap Forms, there’s a small glossary of terms to help you with the transition:

    https://www.tapforms.com/help-mac/5.3/en/topic/bento-template-importer

    Tap Forms isn’t any more difficult to use than Bento IMHO.

    Thanks for the detailed explanation Sam. Hopefully that’ll help Stephan understand Tap Forms better. And of course I’m always available here and via email at support@tapforms.com if you have other questions too.

    #45245

    In reply to: Backup

    Sam Moffatt
    Participant

    You can continue to do one window with all of your libraries, they’re just known as forms in Tap Forms. Tap Forms lets you create multiple documents if you want but nothing stops you from just having one document with everything in it. With the Form Category feature you can even have multiple related forms (or libraries in Bento parlance) under their own heading and collapse it to hide what you’re not currently working on. I think here there is at least parity.

    The collection functionality, as it behaves in Bento, obviously doesn’t exist. However the saved searches can come reasonably close and resemble “smart collections”. Fundamentally a collection is a grouping of records within a library. Bento hides the linking metadata that links a particular record to a collection and also obviously automatically links it when you create a new one. That means to replicate that in Tap Forms would require some work but let’s focus on your problems and see if we can get something close.

    The two examples you provide is certain project and certain length. For certain project I would create a Project field with either autocomplete enabled or I’d use a pick list set to either single value popover or combobox possibly leveraging the “use values from field” setting pointing back to the same field (if you use the single value pop over it’ll give you an interface to add new entries to the list directly as well). This ensures that your metadata is consistent and then I’d create a new saved search which points to this Project field and is set to the name of the project. You do need to create a new saved search per value of project you want to jump to quickly, not entirely dissimilar to creating a new collection though with some extra typing. There is an example of a saved search I’ve created for stuff I buy on eBay attached as a screenshot and another one showing the number of saved searches I have (also you can create folders for your searches as well).

    For the certain length criteria I’d do much the same process though I’m not sure what sort of “length” you’re measuring. If you’re looking for a simple number value then that is easy to search upon. You can use a time field to do stuff like track duration though it does tend towards being clock time focused but you can use it for track duration by changing the formatting in the field options.

    One last aspect would be that if you want to emulate records in multiple collections, what you can do is a similar approach with the search but instead pair with a multi-value popover. This creates a comma separated field and also populates the saved search field making it easy to create the new saved searches as well. As with the single value popover it is easy to add new entries to it which means you can create a new record, set up extra values and then create a new saved search for it. When you do this make sure you are using “contains” rather than “is”.

    The only couple of features that aren’t possible today is automatically setting a value upon creation in a saved search and the other feature I think collections had was it let you do different layouts tied to the collection which Tap Forms can sort of do with multiple custom layouts but the default layout I don’t think will let you hide fields per saved search (though you can do different sorting options).

    Hopefully this helps on your Tap Forms journey :)

    Screenshots: there is a screenshot of one of my marketplace searches for “eBay”, you can see it’s pretty simple. There are two screenshots of my forms and some saved searches. You can see my “Purchases” form has a grouping for marketplace as well as some searches for data hygiene (records missing images for example) and the other screenshot is my orders category which has a couple of forms in it but also has a similar marketplaces sort of example, search for items purchased this year, orders without a marketplace set, orders without any shipments, recently delivered orders and recently updated orders (that’s just a sort option for using date modified rather than my order date field). The orders stuff is also in it’s own form category which is the “Orders” heading at the very top above the “Orders” form (a little confusing but makes sense tome).

    tl;dr: saved searches are powerful!

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    #45238

    In reply to: Backup

    Stephan Heribert
    Participant

    Thanks Sam for encouraging me to complain about my feeling of discomfort with TF. I still haven’t made the change from Bento to TF. In Bento I had ONE window with all of my databases (called libraries), each contained dozens of lists I could handle separately by creating “sub-libraries”. As it appears complicated to handle in TF, I use it less or not at all.

    Example: As a musician I work in many projects handling titles. By managing about 200 titles, I want to recall lists with titles that belong to a certain project, certain length etc. – that was so easily done in bento. The time I spend to find out, I prefer managing it by fumbling by hand.

    #45224

    In reply to: Backup

    Stephan Heribert
    Participant

    Thanks, there were 30 records only, I could repair it after I found a backup in CCC from 2 months ago.

    But there was no “undo” working and changing the type gave zero result. Now I enabled “backup when quit” in preverences.

    I’m not really in tap forms, it’s not handy like bento was.

    #43406
    Brendan
    Keymaster

    We’re figuring this out via email, so lets just continue on there. In this case, there were bad characters in your Bento generated .json file causing the errors. I’ve replied to you already.

    #43393
    Bruno Pauvarel
    Participant

    Hi Brendan,
    I was able to partially solve this problem thanks to the direct contact by mail. It seems that the problems come from some duplicate field names in the Bento template package. I was able to correctly import a template but another bento template still resists because I have difficulties to edit the .xml file. I get errors like “NSXMLparsererrordomain error 512”, Line 1226 column:22 ?
    Thanks and regards.
    Bruno

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    #43337
    Bruno Pauvarel
    Participant

    I tried to import a big Bento 4 template (1218 forms for 20 Gb) but nothing happens and the screen remains blocked on “0 on 1218” for hours. Is this normal ?

    #43240
    GLS
    Participant

    Hello,
    I am pretty new to Tapforms, coming from extensive use of MS Access on PC, some SQL, and minor Bento and Filemaker experience on Mac.

    I am going around in circles without finding a way to solve a problem in a relational database that I am designing for billing consultations.

    Here is the basic design:
    One form (Clients) contains the client information.
    This is linked to a Form (Consultations) in a 1-many fashion as a client can have multiple consultations, and this works perfectly.
    I created a form (Invoice) to send out the bills. It links 1 to many to the Consultations form and has a linked table for the consultations records.

    The Clients form links 1-many to Invoice as a client can have multiple invoices.

    I would like to generate invoices for a client for consultations that are not yet billed (Billed field unchecked in the consultation record).

    Currently in the Client form I can add an invoice, but the linked Consultations table in the Invoice form stays empty (I can however manually add the records).

    Is there a way to automatically displaying the records of unbilled consultations for the client in the Invoice consultation table?

    Ideally it would be grand to update to “checked” the billed consultation for the client upon finishing the invoice…

    Any help would be greatly appreciated!

    Thank you,

    GLS

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