Same situation. I love the program and have used it since they killed Bento.
I would have quickly paid for an upgrade, but subscriptions are a non-starter for personal use software.
I’m not sure I want to upgrade from Tap Forms 5 to Tap Forms Pro subscription at this point, but I’d like to maybe try a 1 month subscription to see if I like the Pro version.
So, my question is, if I were to download Tap Forms Pro, would it install over Tap Forms 5, or would they remain separate apps?
I will of course be upgrading the Pro version with new features as I build them. This way I can release the features as I complete them without having to hold anything back for a bigger upgrade from now on. It will be much better for me and much better for my customers.
What specific features were you looking for that I didn’t include in Tap Forms Pro?
Do you have a road map of the new things you’d like to implement in Tap Forms Pro, within the next twelve months? I’m ok with the subscription model if I know I’ll regularly get new features. Otherwise, this becomes a licensing fee.
Quicken does it, for example. Every year (twice a year I think) we get an email that explaines the general direction where they’ll be pushing development in the next year (like “This year, reporting will be updgraded with more ways to customize grouping”, etc). There are threads to ask for new features and users can vote for the things they want the most. For example, we got Tags a few months ago, and reordering of the accounts in the general view.
I think this would be useful in deciding whether to get a subscription or not.
I upgraded to Tap Forms Pro on my iPad and opted for the Family one-year subscription MacOS and iOS. It gave me a two-week free trial and then will bill $59 per year following the two-week period. I set everything up on my iPad and synced to iCloud. Everything looked good. I THINK I remember reading to do the setup on one device, then on your other devices, just sync and all your data would appear.
Just now I was attempting to upgrade my Mac. When I downloaded the app, it gave me an offer for the first year at half price, but when I tried to select it said I was not eligible. I suspect because I had already subscribed. I wasn’t offered the 50% off when I subscribed from my iPad. Obviously, I want the 50% off. Should I cancel my current free trial and subscription, then try to accept the offer?
Also, as mentioned, I subscribed to Family and my husband is getting a separate offer, for the free trial and to be billed after the two weeks. How does he tell Tap Forms that our Family already has a subscription?
Hi Juan,
I’m sorry but Tap Forms doesn’t directly have a timer function built-in to it.
Maybe it could be possible with an Apple Shortcut that then calls a Tap Forms form script and transfers the data to it. But not sure.
Thanks,
Brendan
Hi Mark,
Ah I see. Ya, unfortunately Tap Forms Pro cannot detect the receipt from the Mac App Store if you purchased directly because there’s no Mac App Store receipt on your system for Tap Forms 5. That’s why it didn’t offer the discount. In my Pricing FAQ I mentioned if you purchased directly to contact me and I’d set you up with the discount. So email me and I’ll help you out.
Or, since you bought the iOS version too, check there to see if you are offered the discount. It would apply to both macOS and iOS if you choose the iOS + macOS subscription option.
To get to the paywall on iOS, go through the onboarding screens, then make a new document, then tap the (+) button to create a new form and you’ll see the paywall screen appear.
Thanks,
Brendan
If I may offer a contrasting perspective on the recently introduced subscription format, despite its imperfections, I believe that Tap Forms stands out as an exceptional database management software for Mac, surpassing even the exorbitantly priced FMP in value for the money. Considering the substantial effort and dedication invested in its development, the yearly license subscription fee of $50 appears remarkably reasonable in comparison to the comprehensive features and capabilities offered by Tap Forms Pro or Tap Forms 5.
Oh that’s odd. I’m not sure why it would say that.
I did submit a new update to Apple which got rejected because for some reason the subscription options didn’t appear for them as I guess at that moment they tested, there was some network issue for them.
Maybe try signing out of the App Store and signing in again and/or rebooting your Mac. I have lots of new subscribers coming in every minute now so I know that is working.
Thanks,
Brendan
You will still be able to open your databases even if you don’t renew your subscription, but Tap Forms will go into a limited mode where it will display only 10 records per form.
However, the Export Records function will still function completely so you can export your records as a CSV file at any time to get your full set of records back.
Thanks,
Brendan
I purchased the Mac version from your site and the iOS version from the app store about 2 months ago.
“If you purchased Tap Forms 5 within the past 6 months of installing Tap Forms Pro, you’ll be given an offer to use Tap Forms Pro for 6 months for free. Plus a two week trial period when you choose the yearly subscription option. As long as you have Tap Forms 5 installed on your device, Tap Forms Pro will detect that and will display the offer.”
I don’t see the offer?
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Dear Brendan,
Thanks for developing Tap Forms. I have had many critical personal databases in Tap Forms, and those databases are very important for me. Therefore, with the new subscription model, I am concerned if I will still be able to at least access or open my databases, in case I must terminate my subscription any time in the future?
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Hi Mike,
Hey no worries. I’m very happy you worked it all out now. And I’m really thrilled that you’ve been using Tap Forms happily for 15 years! That’s just one year after I started building it!
Yes, Tap Forms Pro comes in a bundle for macOS + iOS for a single subscription. You can choose that option on the paywall screen.
Thanks!
Brendan
I have been a Mac User since 1989. There are a few programs that have been around from the start. Over the years I have accumulated a core of must have programs for my Mac environment. I migrated here from Bento. Tap Forms is a keeper. I have had no problem paying for all the versions I need (iPad, iPhone and desktop, etc.). I say all of that to say I understand the subscription model BUT you will need to develop a perpetual license at some point for the Pro version. I will have no problem paying for whatever versions or licenses I need (at a decent price). Keep up the good work.
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Hi Brenden,
Thank you so much for taking the time to test this issue. Your simple instructions worked perfectly. The issue I was having seems to be from trying to delete the iCloud data from within the iPhone settings, instead of the app itself. The delete from iCloud button in the app is greyed out, so I was using the iPhone settings instead. I didn’t realize that you have to disable iCloud sync first for the button to become active.
I would like to apologize for the cynical thoughts I was having with the new version and support for Tap Forms 5. After using this app regularly for over 15 years and never having a problem, I should have known better. Nothing I own has given me the value I have gotten from this app for what I paid originally.
When I posted this question, I didn’t realize that Tap Forms Pro was already out. Can I use the Pro version on my Mac, iPad and iPhone with one subscription?
Thanks again for your quick help,
Mike
And now you are going to a subscription model. Syncing has always been broken and I have lost a lot of work because of it. Now you are going to abandon Tap Forms 5 without ever fixing it or adding new features. A $50 app becomes $50/year and the pro version probably won’t ever get upgrades either.
